Why ned stark is stupid

Absolutely no other Northern family can match the local wealth and power of the Starks, and the Northern hierarchy is extremely stable. That is the whole point of his character, so complaining about it is counterproductive.

People like this do exist, even in modern times, and they are usually the guys who come in last place if you know what I mean. You made a comment that there are too many villains and not enough heroes. If this show gets far enough, you will change your mind a million times on characters.

Guys you think are all right as of now you will come to hate, and guys you think are pure evil will become your biggest heroes. That is the crux of the story.

Even then, most of the characters are morally grey- on purpose. The people are human; thus, inconsistent. Fuck, the internet has managed to turn one of the best fantasy TV series ever into a fucking meme. Stick with the series.

Ned is not flawless. He provides a relatively appealing character to follow at the very beginning of the series but beware. No character is quite how they seem at first glance. This entire series is a study in how there is no black or white…. Leave your ancestral home and your 16 year old in charge while you go leagues away to take a job where your predecessor died of mysterious causes?

Everything that happened has been telegraphed to happen for like 3 episodes min. Lannisters take over the throne. Yeah, kind of expected and because of above. War brewing between Starks and Lannisters. They basically told you in episode 1. Amazing, except he said it 3 episodes ago. Lannisters making Starks look like a fool.

Silent petulant guy is cold, silent and petulant. Quick — which episode was I describing? Yeah, Ned Stark was a dumbass. But I can forgive him for taking credit for capturing Tyrion, since that was on his wife. When you think about it, Catelyn was really the one who stirred up all this shit. Best advice to people who watch the TV show: Read the books. In short, fuck HBO for taking one of the few high fantasy sagas worthy of the capital-L Literature title and turning it into your bog-standard by-the-numbers fantasy.

I still like the meme because it just reflects my general frustration with pig-headed overly principled people. Skip to content This slideshow requires JavaScript. Share this post if you liked it: Email Tweet.

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Email Address never made public. Follow Following. Sign me up. Add a comment. Active Oldest Votes. So yes, he was as naive in the books.

Albeit in greater detail. Improve this answer. Arguably, what brings him down is not doing something immoral, but failing to do it right.

It's the key task, and someone absolutely trustworthy should have been doing it. Tynam You are splitting hairs. It was trusting LF that brought him down, and if you read the passage, that particular part was hard for Ned to stomach, because he found it dishonourable.

Hence, the thing that brought him down was doing something not quite moral. That is ironic, IMO. Also: Surely, hairsplitting is our primary activity? He's politically naive, yes. But I don't agree with your statement that "As a lord, I imagine he felt that people should respect him because of who he was, not because they had to. He wanted people to respect him for how well he fulfilled those responsibilities, not because he was a Lord.

I think his basic mistake was underestimating Cercei. If he had acted instead of telling her what he knew, things would be different. He knew Stannis would kill her children, though and he tried to give her a chance to save them.

In addition, if it was not for Sansa's betrayal or stupidity, pick your choice , still he would had come on top. Show 4 more comments. Myrddin Emrys Myrddin Emrys 1, 1 1 gold badge 14 14 silver badges 7 7 bronze badges. And his previous absence from Court for like, 17 years? I think it was a realistic portrayal. In that there are many such men in the real world who try to follow their ideals like the proverbial bull in the china shop.

I would be a bit disappointed had he been more savvy in the book. The line between being savvy and being cynical is a rather blurry one : — HNL. Theik Theik 5, 1 1 gold badge 19 19 silver badges 32 32 bronze badges. No, he isn't. Steven of Portlandia Steven of Portlandia 11 1 1 bronze badge. There's actually a well-reasoned theory that Jon is not in fact Ned's son but his sister's: awoiaf.

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